[Foam-rangers] BTW, How'd we do???

[Weber Janine]

Wesley brings up an interesting point and one that could easily be addressed with simple statistical analysis.  I'd be willing to compile the numbers if someone can run them through a proper stats program. We'd just need to figure out what to compare with what - like percentage of entries against percentage of points.  Hm, that'd probably do it.  Ideas?
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> On Oct 21, 2013, at 7:43 PM, Wesley Long <drswlong at gmail.com> wrote:
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> It would be interesting, at least from a statistical standpoint, to do an analysis of how beers score or tend to medal in competition at home or abroad.
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> For one thing, any true collusion should stand out compared to the mean variation, but furthermore I wonder if there is any natural bias for a clubs own beers to excel in a home competition for a variety of coincidental reasons, including sheer volume of entries, freshness of entries, and any sort of club effect - that is, a lot of us share beers and advice with each other and it might tend to shape our beers in a manner the club favors which would feed into the results.
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> I certainly doubt any real collusion exists. What would be the point? But I do wonder about the underlying trends in competition performance... From a purely academic perspective.
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> Wesley
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>> On Oct 21, 2013 8:34 PM, "Paul & Christine Smith" <pjscbs at comcast.net> wrote:
>> The Lone Star Circuit wepage, last updated 6/28/2013, is a little confusing as it has results listed from competitions help afterward. But ir seems to be a recent years result, nonetheless.
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>> Cap and Hare medaled in Blue Bonnet, Celtic, and O’Zapft Is! only. They claim 225+ members in 2012. Knights of the Brown Bottle medaled in Blue Bonnet and Celtic. So either they are 1) entering in their backyard only, 2) their beer doesn’t travel well, or 3) the judgment of their beers is generous at home.
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>> The NTHBA’s results are a little more complicated, but interesting. They finished 1st at Blue Bonnet and Limbo, 3rd at O’Zapft! Is, 4th at Alamo, and out of the running everywhere else. So either they are 1) entering mostly in their backyard, 2) their beer doesn’t travel well, or 3) the judgment of their beers is generous at home.
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>> From: Foam-rangers [mailto:foam-rangers-bounces at foamrangers.com] On Behalf Of Scott Birdwell
>> Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 10:58 AM
>> To: foam-rangers at foamrangers.com
>> Subject: Re: [Foam-rangers] BTW, How'd we do???
>> 
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>> OK, somebody remind me again, why we enter and attend the Bluebonnet?  Is it even close to as much fun as the Dixie Cup?  I don't think so. . .  Fifteen entries from the NTHBA?  Five from Cap & Hare?  Zero from the Knights of the Brown Bottle?  Zero attendees?  Why bother?  We received more entries from the Texas Carboys.  Better to support the Cactus Challenge or the Cerveza Cup.
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>> Da'Birdman
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>> On Oct 21, 2013, at 10:32 AM, Sean wrote:
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>> Club Name
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>> Entries Received
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>> Entries Judged
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>> Passed
>> 
>> 1st
>> 
>> 2nd
>> 
>> 3rd
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>> Points
>> 
>> Houston Foam Rangers
>> 
>> 316
>> 
>> 316
>> 
>> 103
>> 
>> 18
>> 
>> 11
>> 
>> 15
>> 
>> 91
>> 
>> Austin Zealots
>> 
>> 203
>> 
>> 203
>> 
>> 75
>> 
>> 10
>> 
>> 11
>> 
>> 10
>> 
>> 62
>> 
>> Bay Area Mashtronauts
>> 
>> 70
>> 
>> 70
>> 
>> 34
>> 
>> 5
>> 
>> 6
>> 
>> 5
>> 
>> 32
>> 
>> Independent
>> 
>> 156
>> 
>> 156
>> 
>> 35
>> 
>> 1
>> 
>> 2
>> 
>> 7
>> 
>> 14
>> 
>> Kuykendahl Gran Brewers
>> 
>> 46
>> 
>> 46
>> 
>> 12
>> 
>> 2
>> 
>> 2
>> 
>> 1
>> 
>> 11
>> 
>> Redstick Brewmasters
>> 
>> 30
>> 
>> 30
>> 
>> 12
>> 
>> 1
>> 
>> 2
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 7
>> 
>> Texas Carboys
>> 
>> 18
>> 
>> 18
>> 
>> 4
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 3
>> 
>> 1
>> 
>> 7
>> 
>> Brasseurs a la Maison
>> 
>> 60
>> 
>> 60
>> 
>> 10
>> 
>> 1
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 2
>> 
>> 5
>> 
>> Basin Brewers
>> 
>> 10
>> 
>> 10
>> 
>> 4
>> 
>> 1
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 1
>> 
>> 4
>> 
>> Sugar Land Imperialists
>> 
>> 8
>> 
>> 8
>> 
>> 4
>> 
>> 1
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 1
>> 
>> 4
>> 
>> Boogs & Martin Brew Crew
>> 
>> 6
>> 
>> 6
>> 
>> 1
>> 
>> 1
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 3
>> 
>> Kansas City Bier Meisters
>> 
>> 4
>> 
>> 4
>> 
>> 3
>> 
>> 1
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 3
>> 
>> Mystic Krewe of Brew
>> 
>> 2
>> 
>> 2
>> 
>> 1
>> 
>> 1
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 3
>> 
>> Rockwall Brewers Association
>> 
>> 8
>> 
>> 8
>> 
>> 5
>> 
>> 1
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 3
>> 
>> T.A.B.C.
>> 
>> 9
>> 
>> 9
>> 
>> 3
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 1
>> 
>> 1
>> 
>> 3
>> 
>> Texas National
>> 
>> 5
>> 
>> 5
>> 
>> 1
>> 
>> 1
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 3
>> 
>> Urban Legend
>> 
>> 6
>> 
>> 6
>> 
>> 2
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 1
>> 
>> 1
>> 
>> 3
>> 
>> Ale-ian Society
>> 
>> 8
>> 
>> 8
>> 
>> 3
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 1
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 2
>> 
>> Dead Yeast Society
>> 
>> 14
>> 
>> 14
>> 
>> 3
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 1
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 2
>> 
>> Foam on the Range
>> 
>> 8
>> 
>> 8
>> 
>> 3
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 1
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 2
>> 
>> North Texas Home Brewers Association
>> 
>> 15
>> 
>> 15
>> 
>> 5
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 1
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 2
>> 
>> Wizards
>> 
>> 6
>> 
>> 6
>> 
>> 3
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 1
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 2
>> 
>> St. Louis Brews
>> 
>> 12
>> 
>> 12
>> 
>> 5
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 1
>> 
>> 1
>> 
>> Athens Homebrew Club
>> 
>> 4
>> 
>> 4
>> 
>> 1
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> Bay Area Mashers
>> 
>> 2
>> 
>> 2
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> Bay Area Society of Homebrewers
>> 
>> 2
>> 
>> 2
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> Bexar Brewers
>> 
>> 4
>> 
>> 4
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> Brew Bayou
>> 
>> 3
>> 
>> 3
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> Brewers Gathering
>> 
>> 4
>> 
>> 4
>> 
>> 2
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> Cane Island Alers
>> 
>> 12
>> 
>> 12
>> 
>> 3
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> Cap and Hare
>> 
>> 5
>> 
>> 5
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> Crescent City Homebrewers
>> 
>> 8
>> 
>> 8
>> 
>> 3
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> Heart of the Valley
>> 
>> 3
>> 
>> 3
>> 
>> 1
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> High Plains Draughters
>> 
>> 2
>> 
>> 2
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> MASH
>> 
>> 3
>> 
>> 3
>> 
>> 3
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> Mashrunners
>> 
>> 8
>> 
>> 8
>> 
>> 1
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> Nacogdoches Brew Club
>> 
>> 3
>> 
>> 3
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> Red Earth Brewers
>> 
>> 10
>> 
>> 10
>> 
>> 3
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> SNAFU
>> 
>> 3
>> 
>> 3
>> 
>> 1
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> Texas Beer Brigade
>> 
>> 4
>> 
>> 4
>> 
>> 1
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> The Brewing Network
>> 
>> 1
>> 
>> 1
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> WORTS OF WISDOM
>> 
>> 11
>> 
>> 11
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> Yeastie Boys
>> 
>> 4
>> 
>> 4
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> 0
>> 
>> Totals
>> 
>> 1116
>> 
>> 1116
>> 
>> 350
>> 
>> 45
>> 
>> 44
>> 
>> 46
>> 
>> 269
>> 
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>> From: Foam-rangers [mailto:foam-rangers-bounces at foamrangers.com] On Behalf Of Chris Todd
>> Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 10:28 AM
>> To: foam-rangers at foamrangers.com
>> Subject: Re: [Foam-rangers] BTW, How'd we do???
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>> Umm…  I saw a pretty complete list.  Looked like 40-45 ribbons won by the Foam Rangers.
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>> From: Foam-rangers [mailto:foam-rangers-bounces at foamrangers.com] On Behalf Of Andrew
>> Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 10:26 AM
>> To: Foam Rangers
>> Subject: Re: [Foam-rangers] BTW, How'd we do???
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>> I suspect they're still having to work out kinks with this new software. In times past with Cato 's later revisions, as soon as the awards were given and wrapped up, they were uploaded.
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>> Sent via fat fingers on a mobile device, your understanding is appreciated.
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>> Andrew 
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>> On Oct 21, 2013 10:21 AM, "John Gonzales" <gonzales at rounder-graphics.com> wrote:
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>> Thanks David,
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>> I didn't see any thing on the site and the Facebook page was devoid of any info. Probably too soon after DC to post as I am certain there were some serious hangovers to contend with.
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>> Cheers to you
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>> On Oct 21, 2013, at 10:15 AM, David R <darogers at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Results here:
>> http://dixiecup.foamrangers.com/bcoe/
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>> On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 10:00 AM, philip verdieck <philip.verdieck at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Apparently it is all unresolved....
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>> On Oct 21, 2013 9:59 AM, "John Gonzales" <gonzales at rounder-graphics.com> wrote:
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>> Sooo Once more…How did we do???
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>> Does atone have a clue?
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>> On Oct 20, 2013, at 2:04 PM, John Gonzales <gonzales at rounder-graphics.com> wrote:
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>> > We missed the awards ceremony, So, I was just curious, how did we do??
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>> > Cheers
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>> > On Oct 20, 2013, at 12:53 PM, Richard Goeggel <richard.goeggel at att.net> wrote:
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>> >> Cliff, thank you for all of your help during Dixie Cup.  You are one of the unsung heroes who pitches in and does what needs to be done.  Hope you got a good night sleep, you earned it.
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>> >> Rich
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>> >> On Oct 20, 2013, at 11:14 AM, Cliff Peery <cpeery2 at earthlink.net> wrote:
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>> >>> This geezerly puff of flatulence crashed early and slept late.
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